[Bglug] World’s first 8K TV broadcasts begin for Rio 2016 Olympics

Logan Streondj streondj at gmail.com
Mon Aug 15 10:26:37 EDT 2016

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On 08/14/16 18:03, LP wrote:
> Your prediction, I believe will be true. Remember the first Cell
> Phone "the BRICK" my dad had one it was so cool !
> On 14 August 2016 at 16:51, ted leslie <ted.leslie at gmail.com 
> <mailto:ted.leslie at gmail.com>> wrote:
> ​When I first remember digitized audio back on a apple ][ in 1982 
> time frame it was horrible, not even close to cassette tape even.​ 
> But digital audio progressed up until the representation storage
> and reproduction (D2A chips) matched the real thing (limited in
> audio realm by reproduction of speakers vs. real instruments). In
> video, the screen, storage and D2A will a keep increasing until 
> (except for the display limits with respect to pure light and 
> contrast), the reproduced video is as close to the real thing as 
> possible. I sit 2 feet away from my 4K 40" philips, and it has no 
> where near the resolution i see when I peer out to the side of the 
> monitor and look at "real things" with detailed surface textures
> and specular highlights. 8K would be nice over 4K, but I think the 
> reproduction will start to get closer to "the real thing" at 16 32 
> or even I would guess when 64K is out, which hopefully will be
> soon i hope :) but seriously, I would hope 64k video is out in next
> 10-20 years, before my eyes get old and dim. You know you will
> have achieved reasonably good video res. when with one eye closed,
> just seeing through the one open eye, you can not tell the
> difference between looking in the display and looking into a high
> end mirror reflecting a vibrant image. Granted maybe 32K will be ok
> to view provided the other factors of brightness, contrast, triplet
> colour representation are all improved. But bottom line is, for
> computer monitor, 4k is still very grainy, and has a long way to go
> to be real life. Also 4k monitors are very inexpensive now, based
> on what you get (600$), for TV's in > 40" category, yeah they are
> pretty expensive I would bet as they are not as common. 4k is even
> out on small screen laptop monitors now (lenovo, etc). You may
> scoff at 8k now, but you will be laughing 10 years from now having
> a 16-32K display and looking back wondering what you were thinking
> :)
> -tl

I'm a little short sighted, but I don't wear glasses.
So even 5 megapixels is actually higher resolution that real life (for
anything beyond a meter or so), for me anyways.

4K is 8.4 Megapixels, so I think Brad is right in that 4k should be
enough for any human.  After reaching 4k I think the only thing that
makes sense is going towards VR/AR.

Technologies have a tendency of plateauing after they reach market
saturation. For instance personal computer shipments peaked in 2010 [1]

[1] personal computer shipments http://bit.ly/2aXPNji

Also audio resolution hasn't really gone above 24bit.
While some sound calculations to avoid rounding errors happen in 32bit,
recording and listening resolution is pretty much maxed out at 24bit.

Consumers usually are completely satisfied with 16bit.
The difference between 16bit and 32bit audio is almost imperceptible.

> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Brad Rodriguez 
> <brad at bradrodriguez.com <mailto:brad at bradrodriguez.com>> wrote:
> It depends on the size of the screen and how far you sit from it.
> Within a 60-degree viewing angle, most people resolve between 4 and
> 7 megapixels. 
> http://www.red.com/learn/red-101/eyesight-4k-resolution-viewing 
> <http://www.red.com/learn/red-101/eyesight-4k-resolution-viewing>
> An 8K x 4K display would be 32 megapixels, which is a bit
> excessive.
> Cheers, Brad
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 10:19:41 -0400 Logan Streondj
> <streondj at gmail.com <mailto:streondj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Yea, I think like Concord there are limits. People don't need to
>> see at such high resolution, or fly faster than the speed of
>> sound.
>> 720p is the most my computers/monitors can handle, and it's
>> definitely enough. Buying 8k or even 4k equipment can be rather
>> expensive.
> -- brad at bradrodriguez.com <mailto:brad at bradrodriguez.com>
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