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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John, Thank you<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Group [mailto:group-bounces@bglug.ca] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Bittorf<br><b>Sent:</b> August-07-16 1:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce-Grey Linux Users Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bglug] Debian new user unfriendly<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Hi guys.<br>I am new to the group. I am not strong in Linux and only tried a few distros, but i have had very good luck with puppy Linux. Very simple and light. Easy to use. Main issue is usually adding peripherals such as printers and scanners.<br>John<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 7 Aug 2016 10:46 am, "LP" <<a href="mailto:linuxpusher2@gmail.com">linuxpusher2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I find all Ubuntu to be unstable on multiple machines, it does not seem to matter which fork you use even Mint is hit and miss lately.<br>Installed fail safe Lubuntu 16.04.1 to my ToughBook dual boot with Windows 7 Ultimate.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>First Lubuntu update after install, Mouse cursor disappeared, fixed that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Then next boot got caught in sign in loop fixed that with apt-get install gdm.(not a video card problem)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I always check downloads with minimum MD5, prefer SHA256 before Burn, I then check integrity at first Live disk boot if available.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I think maybe they are trying too hard and are forgetting computers that were not built this year.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>And this is why I am always Hunting for a better Linux Distro for Stars.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Right now I am looking at how many steps are required to install Debian Dual boot with my Toughbook since they do not include an auto partition tool.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>We will never succeed in converting Windows users when there are so many hurdles for inexperienced users.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>LP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 4 August 2016 at 23:08, LP <<a href="mailto:linuxpusher2@gmail.com" target="_blank">linuxpusher2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Hi Logan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Thanks, looking into that link, used it before.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Chris.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 4 August 2016 at 16:50, Logan Streondj <<a href="mailto:streondj@gmail.com" target="_blank">streondj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br><br><br>On 16-08-04 02:32 PM, Stars wrote:<br>> Hi Ted, No, not paid apps, just an Easy to use "Software Center"<br>> GUI for new users so they know what they are installing. I am not a<br>> big fan of Ubuntu anymore.<br>Why is that?<br><br>Personally I like ubuntu, though I don't use unity/gnome, rather I use<br>awesome as my window manger.<br><br>> I really like Debian and I like that it Pushes Free software and is<br>> DRM Free.<br><br>Well Triquel is a fully FSF approved version of Ubuntu.<br>gNewSense is the one that is based on Debian.<br><a href="https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html" target="_blank">https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html</a><br><br>You can of course simply take out the multiverse and restricted words<br>in the /etc/apt/sources.list and get pretty much the same thing.<br><br>> It is very stable and Secure BUT Secure seems to remove easy to<br>> use. I have just installed it on the U.W. Stars Machine to test<br>> again. Regards, Chris.<br>><br>> Supplying Technology to At Risk Students<br><br>"Trisquel, a GNU/Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that's oriented<br>toward small enterprises, domestic users and educational centers."<br><br>><br>> <a href="http://www.bglug.ca" target="_blank">www.bglug.ca</a> ________________________________________ From: Group<br>> [<a href="mailto:group-bounces@bglug.ca" target="_blank">group-bounces@bglug.ca</a>] On Behalf Of ted leslie<br>> [<a href="mailto:ted.leslie@gmail.com" target="_blank">ted.leslie@gmail.com</a>] Sent: August-04-16 1:23 PM To: Bruce-Grey<br>> Linux Users Group Cc: <a href="mailto:group@bglug.ca" target="_blank">group@bglug.ca</a> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Debian<br>> new user unfriendly<br>><br>> you referring to paid apps? Why not just use debian Via mint 18 via<br>> Ubuntu 16.04?<br>><br>> .tl<br>><br>> On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Stars<br>> <<a href="mailto:stars@unitedwaybg.com" target="_blank">stars@unitedwaybg.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:stars@unitedwaybg.com" target="_blank">stars@unitedwaybg.com</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> HI all, I am searching for a way to install software center on<br>> Debian 8.5 so new users have an easy way to install apps. Until<br>> Debian has a Safe Reliable Software center store, new users will<br>> never migrate to Debian.<br>><br>> <a href="https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/software-center/download" target="_blank">https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/software-center/download</a><br>><br>> <a href="http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/150927/is-there-a-software-center-like-in-ubuntu-in-debian" target="_blank">http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/150927/is-there-a-software-cen<br>ter-like-in-ubuntu-in-debian</a><br>><br>> Regards, Chris.<br>><br>> Supplying Technology to At Risk Students<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.bglug.ca" target="_blank">www.bglug.ca</a> _______________________________________________ Group<br>> mailing list <a href="mailto:Group@bglug.ca" target="_blank">Group@bglug.ca</a><br>> <a href="http://bglug.ca/mailman/listinfo/group_bglug.ca" target="_blank">http://bglug.ca/mailman/listinfo/group_bglug.ca</a><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________ Group mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Group@bglug.ca" target="_blank">Group@bglug.ca</a> <a href="http://bglug.ca/mailman/listinfo/group_bglug.ca" target="_blank">http://bglug.ca/mailman/listinfo/group_bglug.ca</a><br>><br><br>- --<br>Logan Streondj,<br>A dream of Gaia's future.<br>blog: <a href="http://joyfullifestyle.ca" target="_blank">http://joyfullifestyle.ca</a><br>twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/streondj" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/streondj</a><br><br>Speakable Programming for Every Language:<br>github: <a href="https://github.com/elspru/spel" target="_blank">https://github.com/elspru/spel</a><br>intro: <a href="http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/vocab/gen/start.html" target="_blank">http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/vocab/gen/start.html</a><br><br><br>You can use encrypted email with me,<br>how to: <a href="https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/" target="_blank">https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/</a><br>key fingerprint:<br>BD7E 6E2A E625 6D47 F7ED 30EC 86D8 FC7C FAD7 2729<br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)<br><br>iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJXo6qhAAoJEIbY/Hz61ycpDhwP/1RStsgyYPeAXvxq4R0S6FfN<br>ML94kDgAMasAS5GD0+UzYCp++Pbs2e5Vhj+f0eZLgPpSCCTlsdgkY1DT1YGatFK4<br>oZ9fLOp5tqGXyO8v/y24xKYykacaDEj9AUbrgHmYvOdVA1q9h+Tm4A/wSk4eVybD<br>Y6B3sNN3VJA8Jklkt/2LpHjUBkL3L/basWuWvzs88aw/jwbLhPLtx/t4KYzSlcqA<br>lq0y02QyQm7tt09J+FrZJBmt/9I2AIgp00W6Lo6YA0BnwDlSSa1xNGGk/H+PLiZM<br>NMXjbTo6v9MAoBck+305QVgG6pe2ZZKFX9NcgzocLiGixOj+fwC17BvtvAdWpkw2<br>PJQdxwotpHUQgstCe+6SzBaWcnFMaDoALZQbb24wZEO4m1DAA9j9ZmEdmtkFWors<br>EE7m0+6ciMh7M+oCB/BxQJl4+Q3YtvQvMk2CDjbNwxpeFJ+uR6nyOa8tQytQcEFJ<br>TM4/5vW8J45X9RwablpCBgATnP0u7X3oWeYXtVo/Czyca7yiifGX3ulcYn3ABpV7<br>3pqEfT6oVcBV1zgO7D7FCdhvRMq0pidcqn8PvtF5eFnsq3cMPOxOXGnaaBL/9K3t<br>NqkngqRwoFPjtyBKvyhwJ8PQDa6RF+2MvMmzRPON15VCqvGHMEnDEp457V2oFOpd<br>YsUtRVsJ8QXkbHfSD5Vd<br>=YSlj<br>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Group mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Group@bglug.ca" target="_blank">Group@bglug.ca</a><br><a href="http://bglug.ca/mailman/listinfo/group_bglug.ca" target="_blank">http://bglug.ca/mailman/listinfo/group_bglug.ca</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Group mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Group@bglug.ca">Group@bglug.ca</a><br><a href="http://bglug.ca/mailman/listinfo/group_bglug.ca" target="_blank">http://bglug.ca/mailman/listinfo/group_bglug.ca</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>