[Bglug] Macbook to Linux

Thu Jul 28 09:06:24 EDT 2016

Interesting. I actually made the opposite move.

In university I went cold turkey and only used Linux for 5 years. Then at
my first job at VMware, I was shown that most Enterprise IT is Windows
based, and I had to run Windows on my laptop and 75% of the servers we
dealt with were Windows 2003 / 2008 / 2008 R2, and later 2012 & 2012 R2.
The other 25% was Red Hat / Cent OS / Suse.

I was one of the people that knew linux the most, as most of the folks
hired were sysadmins with Windows backgrounds (or networking backgrounds),
and as such I became the global technical lead for Suse Linux (when it runs
on top of VMware's hypervisor)....but still, everything else seemed Windows
based.

Now that I'm doing Software Development, it seems like most folks run Mac
OS. My work computer is a Mac, but our servers are Linux. Folks seem to
like the lack of configuration required for Mac laptops.

Devs seem to be against "Ops or Sysadmin" stuff. It's a weird but
interesting dynamic.

I typically use Vagrant to spin up VirtualBox VM's that run
Debian/Ubuntu/CentOS/whatever the need is, and do my development in. But
the host OS is OS X.

I'm interested in following this conversation/thread :)

Who knows, maybe I'll make the switch with my next laptop purchase.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:00 AM Logan Streondj <streondj at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 16-07-27 10:57 PM, Andrew Howlett wrote:
> >
> > i don't like the new mac hardware. i don't use the special apple
> > software (iphoto, itunes, etc). i don't carry an iphone.
> >
> > also macbooks are very expensive. if you spend $1200 on commodity
> > hardware can buy some very good stuff.
> >
> Wow, just rolling in the dough.
> Mudita! :-D
>
> > switching back to linux on commodity hardware makes sense to me.
> >
>
> Got to mention that while most commodity hardware does work reasonably
> well, it really saves a lot of hassle when have hardware that is
> completely compatible.
>
> So I'd recommend an RYF (respects your freedom) laptop,
> as you can afford it.
>
> Especially with the new intel chips which have a secondary "mystery
> processor" which is likely used for tracking and who knows what else.
> It has been noted that it may be used as a trojan horse exploit,
> quite possibly by intel or the NSA or whomever.
> Anyone that gets that private key...
> which is just a few hacks away.
> whooplah spambot army,
> or maybe ransom bait?
>
> to quote RYF
> "The desire to own a computer or device and have full control over it,
> to know that you are not being spied on or tracked, to run any
> software you wish without asking permission, and to share with friends
> without worrying about Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) —these
> are the desires of millions of people who care about the future of
> technology and our society.
> Unfortunately, hardware manufacturers have until now relied on close
> cooperation with proprietary software companies that demanded control
> over their users. As citizens and their customers, we need to promote
> our desires for a new class of hardware — hardware that anyone can
> support because it respects your freedom."
>
> http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom
>
> You could get a fully stocked X200 or T400 for half your budget.
>
> Coincidentally you can get a mini 3D printer for the whole budget.
>
> > andrew.
> >
> > On 2016-07-27 10:53 PM, William Park wrote:
> >> Curious... why switch away from Mac?  It seems that everyone
> >> around me has Mac, so I'm thinking about it.
>
> For better or for worse, I've never been much influenced by the
> bandwagon-effect cognitive bias. If the evidence is against it, then I
> avoid it. I've only heard/read/seen bad things about that which is
> proprietary.
>
> When considering Apple/Microsoft or other things proprietary for
> personal use.
> My stomach just knots up, and a very unpleasant desire to hurl develops,
> probably because proprietary things just taste like poison to my mind.
> Expensive, brittle, sterile software and hardware,
> like eating chalk, as it scratches the board.
>
> (my parents were very liberal with letting me put things in my mouth
> as a child, so I think I ate some chalk at some point and had a bad
> reaction, now I have bad associations with anything chalk related).
> I prefer not to get chalk on my hands, it's very irritating,
> and I usually have to run to wash them of it ASAP.
>
> Biological nature is open-source libreware by it's very nature, those
> things which were proprietary (disallowed copying of source code
> RNA/DNA) did not reproduce and so are all gone. All things proprietary
> in the long term are thus doomed to failure.
>
> I of course admire and respect those of you capable of handling those
> proprietary things. I understand it is sometimes necessary for job
> purposes.
>
> May you be clean, healthy and safe.
>
> Thanks,
> - --
> Logan Streondj,
> A dream of Gaia's future.
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