[Bglug] Acer Aspire One

[Anthony Morassutti]

The beta version -should- have a 32-bit version.
On the other hand it's a completely different experience to stable.
(very retro, at least by default)
So it's your choice as to which one you use.

The beta version has the advantage of newer browsers, which is also a
disadvantage.

Hope you get the machine up to speed! :D

On 04/01/2022, Dave Jackson <dave at the-jacksons.ca> wrote:
> - speed test ~7to10 was in M(bits)ps... faster than when we were out
> at Sauble[4-5]!
> - I will load the "Beta" version of Elive... assume it will detect the
> 32 bit Intel Atom limitation
> - switched Gmail to basic HTML... was super slow to load; now very fast
> - enabling NoScript and switching to Opera have given the best
> increase so far... will duplicate that on the Beta version
> - thanks to all for your advice
> - hope to [some day] meet and "play" a bit
> Dave
>
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>> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:01:01 -0500
>> From: Brad Rodriguez <brad at bradrodriguez.com>
>> To: group at bglug.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Computers for disadvantaged
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>> I got the impression somewhere that the schools, and the kids, are
>> moving more to tablet computers, and not using desktops/laptops so
>> much.
>>
>> - Brad
>>
>> On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 11:40:17 -0500
>> Andrew Howlett <andrew at howlett.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We had a refurbishing project in partnership with United Way. Closed
>>> in 2019 before covid. There are a lot of low cost options available
>>> now and honestly our refurbished PC s mighy not have been the best
>>> option for low income people.
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:45:36 -0500
>> From: Anthony Morassutti <moralater9 at gmail.com>
>> To: Bruce-Grey Linux Users Group <group at bglug.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Acer Aspire One
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>> Which Elive version did you use, stable or beta?
>>
>> If it's the Stable version, that's likely your problem - it's built on
>> Debian Wheezy so the software is really old.
>>
>> On 02/01/2022, Remi Gauvin <remi at georgianit.com> wrote:
>>> On 2022-01-02 10:25 a.m., Dave Jackson wrote:
>>>> My friend just returned the [2008] 10" Acer I had loaned him many years
>>>> ago.
>>>> Time to resurrect from the dead and "play"!
>>>> Added an SSD and 2Gb of ram.
>>>> I had noticed one of the members promoted Elive, so loaded the 32 bit
>>>> version.
>>>> It looks good, boots fast and programs load quickly.
>>>>
>>>> I ran speed tests and downloads are ~7 to 10 Mbps
>>>> Sites that are data heavy eg: BBC, CBC are painfully slow to load.
>>>> Firefox and Opera have the same speed issue.
>>>> It has an Intel Atom processor. This may be the limitation?
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to improve data heavy websites
>>>> on
>>>> "Mini-Me"?
>>>> Thanx,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does adding 2GB Ram that is now your total?,  Use top and free -m
>>> commands to identify your bottleneck,, cpu or ram?  I suspect ram.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the output of Free commands, if the total of 'Mem' and 'Swap' values
>>> in the 'Used' column exceeds your ram, that's going to degrade
>>> performance very quickly,
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>> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 13:25:52 -0500
>> From: ted leslie <ted.leslie at gmail.com>
>> To: Bruce-Grey Linux Users Group <group at bglug.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Acer Aspire One
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>> 7 to 10 M(bits)ps? bits? I think if that's what your feed really is
>> (internet speed test),
>> then slow would be understandable.
>> You can open the dev tools on either browser and look at network tab info,
>> and it will show you a nice timeline of all the asset downloads and times.
>> You can try one of those browsers that claims to have features to faster
>> load big sites (i think they use a local cache and prune site). You can
>> also try to switch your browser client info response to a mobile fake, and
>> see if taking the mobile version of the websites helps (it should).
>>
>> I know in some web site loading analysis I did a few years ago, and what
>> was thought of
>> as a straight forward "easy load" site was in fact 100MB.
>> 100MB at 8Mbps is a 1+ minute load time! You sure you are not talking
>> MBps?
>> At 8MBps you would be 90Mbps.
>>
>> The dev tools will tell you the size of site page you grab, and you can
>> get
>> a better idea from that.
>>  I get 16MB for front page of CBC with then constant updates after that of
>> 1MB every few seconds.
>> So at 10 Mbps that's probably 17 seconds fully load and complete render.
>> In dev tools when I select mobile as client, i get 12 MB, so it appears it
>> helps if you want to change
>> your client type in browser, or browse with dev tools on all the time in
>> mobile analysis mode :)
>> BBC news comes in  7MB in mobile mode.
>> So this type of analysis should tell you were bottle neck is.
>>
>> -tl
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 10:25 AM Dave Jackson <dave at the-jacksons.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> My friend just returned the [2008] 10" Acer I had loaned him many years
>>> ago.
>>> Time to resurrect from the dead and "play"!
>>> Added an SSD and 2Gb of ram.
>>> I had noticed one of the members promoted Elive, so loaded the 32 bit
>>> version.
>>> It looks good, boots fast and programs load quickly.
>>>
>>> I ran speed tests and downloads are ~7 to 10 Mbps
>>> Sites that are data heavy eg: BBC, CBC are painfully slow to load.
>>> Firefox and Opera have the same speed issue.
>>> It has an Intel Atom processor. This may be the limitation?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to improve data heavy websites on
>>> "Mini-Me"?
>>> Thanx,
>>> Dave
>>>
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>> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 14:45:19 -0500
>> From: Dave Jackson <dave at the-jacksons.ca>
>> To: group at bglug.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Acer Aspire One
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>> Not sure if this is how I "reply"...
>> Brad:
>> - Elive O/S is free for 32 bit and donation ($5 Paypal) for 64 bit
>> - Opera is available on the 32 bit ISO that you download -or- you can add
>> it later through Synaptic Pkg Mgr
>> - I added NoScript extension to Firefox & Opera
>> - not great, but  faster - thanks!
>> - I look on this mini-me as an academic exercise... a portable browsing
>> "LinuxBook" :-)
>>
>> Remi:
>> - 2Gb total in 1 slot
>> - "free"...  used 952 + swap 0 < 2014
>> - "top" when resting (just Terminal loaded) %CPU of ~11  %Memory ~5%
>> - "top" when Opera loaded and accessing CBC  %CPU ~85-95-113   %Memory
>> ~10-20
>> - when browsers (Opera or Firefox) load, they send the CPU to ~115%
>> - the Intel Atom may be the bottleneck
>>
>> Thanx,
>> Dave
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It is the distribution of the future, yet it is so lightweight that it
revives the past. Check it out! elivecd.org