[Bglug] Acer Aspire One

[Dave Jackson]

- the Beta version of Elive only supports 64 bit
- it was a no-go
- will stay with Stable 32 bit (Intel Atom)
Dave

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> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:01:01 -0500
> From: Brad Rodriguez <brad at bradrodriguez.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Computers for disadvantaged
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> I got the impression somewhere that the schools, and the kids, are
> moving more to tablet computers, and not using desktops/laptops so
> much.
>
> - Brad
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> On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 11:40:17 -0500
> Andrew Howlett <andrew at howlett.net> wrote:
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> > We had a refurbishing project in partnership with United Way. Closed
> > in 2019 before covid. There are a lot of low cost options available
> > now and honestly our refurbished PC s mighy not have been the best
> > option for low income people.
>
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> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:45:36 -0500
> From: Anthony Morassutti <moralater9 at gmail.com>
> To: Bruce-Grey Linux Users Group <group at bglug.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Acer Aspire One
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> Which Elive version did you use, stable or beta?
>
> If it's the Stable version, that's likely your problem - it's built on
> Debian Wheezy so the software is really old.
>
> On 02/01/2022, Remi Gauvin <remi at georgianit.com> wrote:
> > On 2022-01-02 10:25 a.m., Dave Jackson wrote:
> >> My friend just returned the [2008] 10" Acer I had loaned him many years
> >> ago.
> >> Time to resurrect from the dead and "play"!
> >> Added an SSD and 2Gb of ram.
> >> I had noticed one of the members promoted Elive, so loaded the 32 bit
> >> version.
> >> It looks good, boots fast and programs load quickly.
> >>
> >> I ran speed tests and downloads are ~7 to 10 Mbps
> >> Sites that are data heavy eg: BBC, CBC are painfully slow to load.
> >> Firefox and Opera have the same speed issue.
> >> It has an Intel Atom processor. This may be the limitation?
> >>
> >> Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to improve data heavy websites
> on
> >> "Mini-Me"?
> >> Thanx,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >
> > Does adding 2GB Ram that is now your total?,  Use top and free -m
> > commands to identify your bottleneck,, cpu or ram?  I suspect ram.
> >
> >
> > In the output of Free commands, if the total of 'Mem' and 'Swap' values
> > in the 'Used' column exceeds your ram, that's going to degrade
> > performance very quickly,
> >
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> Elive Linux is in my and many others' opinion, the best distro ever!
> It is the distribution of the future, yet it is so lightweight that it
> revives the past. Check it out! elivecd.org
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> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 13:25:52 -0500
> From: ted leslie <ted.leslie at gmail.com>
> To: Bruce-Grey Linux Users Group <group at bglug.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Acer Aspire One
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> 7 to 10 M(bits)ps? bits? I think if that's what your feed really is
> (internet speed test),
> then slow would be understandable.
> You can open the dev tools on either browser and look at network tab info,
> and it will show you a nice timeline of all the asset downloads and times.
> You can try one of those browsers that claims to have features to faster
> load big sites (i think they use a local cache and prune site). You can
> also try to switch your browser client info response to a mobile fake, and
> see if taking the mobile version of the websites helps (it should).
>
> I know in some web site loading analysis I did a few years ago, and what
> was thought of
> as a straight forward "easy load" site was in fact 100MB.
> 100MB at 8Mbps is a 1+ minute load time! You sure you are not talking MBps?
> At 8MBps you would be 90Mbps.
>
> The dev tools will tell you the size of site page you grab, and you can get
> a better idea from that.
>  I get 16MB for front page of CBC with then constant updates after that of
> 1MB every few seconds.
> So at 10 Mbps that's probably 17 seconds fully load and complete render.
> In dev tools when I select mobile as client, i get 12 MB, so it appears it
> helps if you want to change
> your client type in browser, or browse with dev tools on all the time in
> mobile analysis mode :)
> BBC news comes in  7MB in mobile mode.
> So this type of analysis should tell you were bottle neck is.
>
> -tl
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 10:25 AM Dave Jackson <dave at the-jacksons.ca> wrote:
>
> > My friend just returned the [2008] 10" Acer I had loaned him many years
> > ago.
> > Time to resurrect from the dead and "play"!
> > Added an SSD and 2Gb of ram.
> > I had noticed one of the members promoted Elive, so loaded the 32 bit
> > version.
> > It looks good, boots fast and programs load quickly.
> >
> > I ran speed tests and downloads are ~7 to 10 Mbps
> > Sites that are data heavy eg: BBC, CBC are painfully slow to load.
> > Firefox and Opera have the same speed issue.
> > It has an Intel Atom processor. This may be the limitation?
> >
> > Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to improve data heavy websites on
> > "Mini-Me"?
> > Thanx,
> > Dave
> >
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> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 14:45:19 -0500
> From: Dave Jackson <dave at the-jacksons.ca>
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> Not sure if this is how I "reply"...
> Brad:
> - Elive O/S is free for 32 bit and donation ($5 Paypal) for 64 bit
> - Opera is available on the 32 bit ISO that you download -or- you can add
> it later through Synaptic Pkg Mgr
> - I added NoScript extension to Firefox & Opera
> - not great, but  faster - thanks!
> - I look on this mini-me as an academic exercise... a portable browsing
> "LinuxBook" :-)
>
> Remi:
> - 2Gb total in 1 slot
> - "free"...  used 952 + swap 0 < 2014
> - "top" when resting (just Terminal loaded) %CPU of ~11  %Memory ~5%
> - "top" when Opera loaded and accessing CBC  %CPU ~85-95-113   %Memory
> ~10-20
> - when browsers (Opera or Firefox) load, they send the CPU to ~115%
> - the Intel Atom may be the bottleneck
>
> Thanx,
> Dave
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