[Bglug] Debian new user unfriendly

Tue Aug 9 18:37:15 EDT 2016

John, Thank you

From: Group [mailto:group-bounces at bglug.ca] On Behalf Of John Bittorf
Sent: August-07-16 1:08 PM
To: Bruce-Grey Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Bglug] Debian new user unfriendly

Hi guys.
I am new to the group. I am not strong in Linux and only tried a few distros, but i have had very good luck with puppy Linux. Very simple and light. Easy to use. Main issue is usually adding peripherals such as printers and scanners.
John

On 7 Aug 2016 10:46 am, "LP" <linuxpusher2 at gmail.com<mailto:linuxpusher2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
I find all Ubuntu to be unstable on multiple machines, it does not seem to matter which fork you use even Mint is hit and miss lately.
Installed fail safe Lubuntu 16.04.1 to my ToughBook dual boot with Windows 7 Ultimate.
First Lubuntu update after install,  Mouse cursor disappeared, fixed that.
Then next boot got caught in sign in loop fixed that with apt-get install gdm.(not a video card problem)
I always check downloads with minimum MD5, prefer SHA256 before Burn, I then check integrity at first Live disk boot if available.

I think maybe they are trying too hard and are forgetting computers that were not built this year.
And this is why I am always Hunting for a better Linux Distro for Stars.
Right now I am looking at how many steps are required to install Debian Dual boot with my Toughbook since they do not include an auto partition tool.
We will never succeed in converting Windows users when there are so many hurdles for inexperienced users.
LP

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On 4 August 2016 at 23:08, LP <linuxpusher2 at gmail.com<mailto:linuxpusher2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Logan,
Thanks, looking into that link, used it before.
Chris.

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On 4 August 2016 at 16:50, Logan Streondj <streondj at gmail.com<mailto:streondj at gmail.com>> wrote:
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On 16-08-04 02:32 PM, Stars wrote:
> Hi Ted, No, not paid apps, just an Easy to use "Software Center"
> GUI for new users so they know what they are installing. I am not a
> big fan of Ubuntu anymore.
Why is that?

Personally I like ubuntu, though I don't use unity/gnome, rather I use
awesome as my window manger.

> I really like Debian and I like that it Pushes Free software and is
> DRM Free.

Well Triquel is a fully FSF approved version of Ubuntu.
gNewSense is the one that is based on Debian.
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

You can of course simply take out the multiverse and restricted words
in the /etc/apt/sources.list  and get pretty much the same thing.

> It is very stable and Secure BUT Secure seems to remove easy to
> use. I have just installed it on the U.W. Stars Machine to test
> again. Regards, Chris.
>
> Supplying Technology to At Risk Students

"Trisquel, a GNU/Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that's oriented
toward small enterprises, domestic users and educational centers."

>
> www.bglug.ca<http://www.bglug.ca> ________________________________________ From: Group
> [group-bounces at bglug.ca<mailto:group-bounces at bglug.ca>] On Behalf Of ted leslie
> [ted.leslie at gmail.com<mailto:ted.leslie at gmail.com>] Sent: August-04-16 1:23 PM To: Bruce-Grey
> Linux Users Group Cc: group at bglug.ca<mailto:group at bglug.ca> Subject: Re: [Bglug] Debian
> new user unfriendly
>
> you referring to paid apps? Why not just use debian Via mint 18 via
> Ubuntu 16.04?
>
> .tl
>
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Stars
> <stars at unitedwaybg.com<mailto:stars at unitedwaybg.com><mailto:stars at unitedwaybg.com<mailto:stars at unitedwaybg.com>>> wrote:
>
>
> HI all, I am searching for a way to install software center on
> Debian 8.5 so new users have an easy way to install apps. Until
> Debian has a Safe Reliable Software center store, new users will
> never migrate to Debian.
>
> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/software-center/download
>
> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/150927/is-there-a-software-cen
ter-like-in-ubuntu-in-debian
>
>  Regards, Chris.
>
> Supplying Technology to At Risk Students
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