[Bglug] Proton Drive

[Anthony Morassutti]

heard good things about sync.com, relatively cheap (5gb free; $8/mo
for the basic paid plan), it's canadian too :)

On 19/02/2021, Anthony Morassutti <moralater9 at gmail.com> wrote:
> heard good things about sync.com, relatively cheap (5gb free; $8/mo
> for the basic paid plan)
>
> On 19/02/2021, ted leslie <ted.leslie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just to be clear, not sure it was a rhetorical question, but for
>> everyones
>> info if they don't know.
>> ZK means the supplier doesn't keep or have any way of getting the key to
>> decrypt. To them,
>> all your data can ever be is just "same what" random bits (assuming
>> quantum
>> comp. doesn't
>> change that soon).
>> If the vender has access to your key, then your data is only as safe as
>> their key storage, and also
>> they can be asked, depending on circumstances, and country, to turn over
>> key.
>>
>> Of course other issues are.Vender says (even with audit) they don't read
>> your key, but you still have to
>> trust their local app on your machine, What gets a bit scary is if you
>> choose to use web access.
>> Then you have to trust that the web page does local java script key input
>> and decryption  (local run
>> java code for decrypt/crypt algos) and that this is safe, audited, etc.
>>
>> One , probably, good solution is a ZK with a open source compiled local
>> run
>> app, and you trust the community
>> is vetting the source so as to see the key is not used other than in
>> local
>> decrypt/encrypt.
>> If they use major trusted auditors, then there is some warm feeling on
>> their code base (i guess).
>>
>> The bulletproof ZK is to get a storage and small compute account, and use
>> things (linux) like remote block device
>> level protocol and iScsi emulation, with this you are the single person
>> in
>> control, and the server has your
>> encrypted bytes, and a block level/iScsi setup to deliver those encrytped
>> bytes back to you, but even the
>> the decision of block level placement etc is done on your host. This
>> however is brutal for performance access,
>> as your local host is delivering basically block access r/w directions
>> over
>> the internet (it assumes this is local network).
>> I have set up the above and it worked, but any break in network
>> communications causes the disk to have to
>> rebuild/check. So I had to use checkpoints (frequently) and rebuild, etc.
>> Optimal solution but at a cost to
>> having to have the knowledge and the time (and pain of admin).
>> I think tesorit is basically doing the above, but it is built with fault
>> tolerance on the block level, and its
>> a constantly versioning file system, so they are usually only writing and
>> not erasing (i.e. zfs like i did), often,
>> with some clean up running as needed.
>> Tesorit is fantastic, back when I used it, Apple used it for their Health
>> Record project (giving it a brand name
>> trust level), but the cost is just crazy.
>>
>> Agin, if someone finds a good ZK solution provider that is reasonably
>> priced, do a follow up post, i only R&D
>> 3 years ago, so not up-to-date on pricing.
>>
>> -tl
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 8:50 AM Anthony Morassutti <moralater9 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, I saw that complaint a lot about tresorit, and decided with once
>>> I need one probably sync.com unless something changes
>>>
>>> and yeah, what's the point of paying for a non-zero-knowledge cloud
>>> storage ?
>>>
>>> On 18/02/2021, ted leslie <ted.leslie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Doesn't seem to say its zero-knowledge (like tresorit),
>>> > not to sure how useful a non zero-knowledge cloud store is.
>>> > If it is indeed ZK,  post here (give) update, i used tresorit, but too
>>> > expensive.
>>> >
>>> > -tl
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 8:13 AM Brad Rodriguez
>>> > <brad at bradrodriguez.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I know we have some ProtonMail users on this list, so I thought I'd
>>> >> pass
>>> >> this on.  They're now introducing Proton Drive for encrypted cloud
>>> >> storage.  The beta is available to some (paid) customers:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://protonmail.com/blog/proton-drive-early-access/
>>> >>
>>> >> And yes, I know this news is three months old.  Such news travels
>>> >> slowly
>>> >> to these parts.
>>> >>
>>> >> - Brad
>>> >> --
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